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TOP 5 States for letterboxes--OOPS RI IS # 5 WITH 208

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Re: TOP 5 States for letterboxes--OOPS RI IS # 5 WITH 208

From: an_irish_mum (e_r_nurse32@yahoo.com) | Date: 2002-12-13 16:58:07 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "an_irish_mum

" wrote:
> Ok --I should be doing something else..I really don't have time to
be
> doing this but--I was curious to see how many boxes there were in
> different states, so I spent about 15 minutes gathering the
following
> numbers ...
>
> Numbers per the current list:
>
> 1.Connecticut 828 (We obviously have too much time on our hands-
LOL!)
>
> 2.Ohio 291
>
> 3.Massachusetts 243
>
> 4.Oregon 216
>
> 5.Rhode Island 208


Re: TOP 5 States for letterboxes--OOPS RI IS # 5 WITH 208

From: thedoubtfulguests (thedoubtfulguests@yahoo.com) | Date: 2002-12-13 19:20:09 UTC
Well one more for Virginia. How many does Virginia have now? I
wonder how many we had before the news article in July.

Scarab of the Doubtful Guests

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "an_irish_mum
" wrote:
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "an_irish_mum
>
> " wrote:
> > Ok --I should be doing something else..I really don't have time
to
> be
> > doing this but--I was curious to see how many boxes there were
in
> > different states, so I spent about 15 minutes gathering the
> following
> > numbers ...
> >
> > Numbers per the current list:
> >
> > 1.Connecticut 828 (We obviously have too much time on our hands-
> LOL!)
> >
> > 2.Ohio 291
> >
> > 3.Massachusetts 243
> >
> > 4.Oregon 216
> >
> > 5.Rhode Island 208


Re: TOP 5 States for letterboxes--OOPS RI IS # 5 WITH 208

From: rscarpen (RiskyNil@hotmail.com) | Date: 2002-12-13 20:34:06 UTC
> Numbers per the current list:
>
> 1.Connecticut 828
> 2.Ohio 291
> 3.Massachusetts 243
> 4.Oregon 216
> 5.Rhode Island 208

Hey, Oregon, you guys have got to start hiding more boxes if we're
ever gonna be numero uno! =) Why, I remember the good ol' days when
Ohio had something like two letterboxes, and now they're beating us!
And come to mention it, Washington and California--which used to have
pathetic letterbox counts--are catching up quick. If every Oregonian
hid just ONE letterbox, do you realize that Oregon would have
MILLIONS of boxes?! MILLIONS! We'd make Connecticut look like the
half-baked pie that they are. *wink* =)

-- Ryan


Re: [LbNA] Re: TOP 5 States for letterboxes--OOPS RI IS # 5 WITH 208

From: BB (bburk@harbornet.com) | Date: 2002-12-13 14:06:08 UTC-08:00
This is getting to be a numbers game ....................................


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> > Numbers per the current list:
> >
> > 1.Connecticut 828
> > 2.Ohio 291
> > 3.Massachusetts 243
> > 4.Oregon 216
> > 5.Rhode Island 208
>
> Hey, Oregon, you guys have got to start hiding more boxes if we're
> ever gonna be numero uno! =) Why, I remember the good ol' days when
> Ohio had something like two letterboxes, and now they're beating us!
> And come to mention it, Washington and California--which used to have
> pathetic letterbox counts--are catching up quick. If every Oregonian
> hid just ONE letterbox, do you realize that Oregon would have
> MILLIONS of boxes?! MILLIONS! We'd make Connecticut look like the
> half-baked pie that they are. *wink* =)
>
> -- Ryan
>
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Re: [LbNA] Re: TOP 5 States for letterboxes--OOPS RI IS # 5 WITH 208

From: (mindizney@aol.com) | Date: 2002-12-13 17:45:29 UTC-05:00
In a message dated 12/13/2002 5:10:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, bburk@harbornet.com writes:


Subj:Re: [LbNA] Re: TOP 5 States for letterboxes--OOPS RI IS # 5 WITH 208
Date:12/13/2002 5:10:47 PM Eastern Standard Time
From:    bburk@harbornet.com (BB)
Reply-to: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
To:    letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com




This is getting to be a numbers game ....................................


So???? Maybe some people don' t mind.  I certainly didn't mind these posts.  Actually, even though I'm not into the "numbers" as much, it was interesting that someone actually went and counted the numbers on the site.  I was pleasantly surprised of some in the top 5 (Oregon for one).  Of course, I already knew that I lived in the Letterboxing Capitol of America!

Music Woman

Re: TOP 5 States for letterboxes--OOPS RI IS # 5 WITH 208

From: dvn2rckr (dvn2rckr@yahoo.com) | Date: 2002-12-14 03:38:53 UTC
> > Numbers per the current list:
> >
> > 1.Connecticut 828
> > 2.Ohio 291
> > 3.Massachusetts 243
> > 4.Oregon 216
> > 5.Rhode Island 208
>
> And come to mention it, Washington and California--which used to
have
> pathetic letterbox counts--are catching up quick.

Hey, I'm trying my best to boost WA's count (come to think of it,
I've placed a few in CA, too)!!! Oh, I also placed one in OH
recently which isn't yet reflected in their count so they're a bit
closer to CT than most people think! ;) I've run out of local
places here in my WA neighborhood to hide them without duplicating
my efforts... ;) But, then again, I have been 'duplicating' my
efforts, anyway--having to rehide so many of my boxes that have gone
missing recently! UGH!

Hey, Washingtonians...let's catch up with Oregon! If every active
letterboxer just placed a new box within the next month, that would
get us pretty close... ;) Or, better yet, spread the cheer around
the world and drop off a new hitchhiker in the next week or two
instead! We need something to look forward to during our 'gray'
period here in the Pacific NW...

In all seriousness--no, it's not about the numbers just getting out
and doing something that is really a lot of fun, doesn't require
much money, helps us burn some calories, relieve some stress,
exposes us to new, exciting and different experiences & keeps us
from eating junk food or spending money we don't need to spend!!!
And for those of us who harbor obsessive/compulsive tendencies like
I do, the stamps are nice to help us document what we've
accomplished along the way...

dvn2r ckr
F200 P43 (I have at least 2 dozen others ready to place--just
running out of locations nearby) X35 E2


[LbNA] Re: TOP 5 States for letterboxes--OOPS RI IS # 5 WITH 208

From: letterboxfan (letterboxfan@yahoo.com) | Date: 2002-12-14 03:46:00 UTC
It certainly does seem like a numbers game. Does it really matter how
many boxes a State has? For me, letterboxing adds a new dimesion to
my favorite pastime, hiking. I have even found boxes where people
write in how many boxes they have found. To me, this seems very
arrogant, however, I'm sure this does not seem arrogant to others who
enjoy keeping track of someone's trivial, statistical information.
After all, what difference does it make how many boxes you have
found? So....we get a letterbox patch?......The numbers really don't
mean much to me at all. If the numbers are important, maybe we should
develop some type of weighted scale. Based on the statistics, if you
use the "Connecticut Standard" then maybe for each box found in
Virginia could count as 4 found!

I think this is getting a bit ridiculous!I go letterboxing for the
added adventure on a great hike. Is it just a numbers game for you?

GB


--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "BB" wrote:
> This is getting to be a numbers
game ....................................
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:34 PM
> Subject: [LbNA] Re: TOP 5 States for letterboxes--OOPS RI IS # 5
WITH 208
>
>
> > > Numbers per the current list:
> > >
> > > 1.Connecticut 828
> > > 2.Ohio 291
> > > 3.Massachusetts 243
> > > 4.Oregon 216
> > > 5.Rhode Island 208
> >
> > Hey, Oregon, you guys have got to start hiding more boxes if
we're
> > ever gonna be numero uno! =) Why, I remember the good ol' days
when
> > Ohio had something like two letterboxes, and now they're beating
us!
> > And come to mention it, Washington and California--which used to
have
> > pathetic letterbox counts--are catching up quick. If every
Oregonian
> > hid just ONE letterbox, do you realize that Oregon would have
> > MILLIONS of boxes?! MILLIONS! We'd make Connecticut look like
the
> > half-baked pie that they are. *wink* =)
> >
> > -- Ryan
> >
> >
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> >


Re: [LbNA] Re: TOP 5 States for letterboxes--OOPS RI IS # 5 WITH 208

From: Randy Hall (randy@mapsurfer.com) | Date: 2002-12-13 23:36:38 UTC-05:00

(this ain't a flame ... figured I needed a disclaimer :-))

> It certainly does seem like a numbers game. Does it really matter how
> many boxes a State has?

It might be. Depends who you ask. Isn't life about turning money into
time and time into fun?

It might be, but on a more interesting note, the quantum physicists have
pretty much destroyed objective reality in favor of observer-centric
specific reality -- in other words, the answer to the question "if a tree
falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound",
is "no". (That one had been bugging alot of people for a long time).

What this means to letterboxing, I guess (or at least to "these" sorts of
threads on letterboxing talk lists), is that (and quoting Mr. Brett's punk
band) "you create your own reality, and leave mine to me" (good to know the
punk rockers figured it out before the scientists and the philosophers ...
tho at least its good to know the singer is a PhD candidate ...)

In other words, I think most people who are posting on this thread think
its fun, especially given the rather lame letterboxing weather in parts
of the world from whence the posts are coming ... (including my part of
the world, where I stare at 9 hand-carved stamps waiting to get into
the latest caper) ...

... and if its competitive and competitive is fun, so be it, we can create
our own reality in which this stuff goes to our brain's equivalent of
/dev/null ...

As for weighted scales, I think a box should be worth one point for each
month it remains unfound. Anyone want to keep track of that? I didn't
think so -- I think that proves the point that its not competitive, or
people would be proposing all sorts of rules along these lines to "level
the playing field", etc. which is what people into competition start to
do.

Finally, and to really stoke the flames -- I've always felt its a form of
competition to deny the competitive nature of the human race, or to show
disdain for apparent competition (whether or not it is in fact, competition),
which, in this case, I don't think it is. I call it "Tooheyism"; I'll leave
it to the interested to work out the allusion, tho I'll claim the first
post on the list alluding to quantum physics, semiotics, punk rock, and
fiction -- not because I'm competitive, but because its fun :-)

Cheers

Re: [LbNA] Re: TOP 5 States for letterboxes--OOPS RI IS # 5 WITH 208

From: Alafair (ms_alafair@yahoo.com) | Date: 2002-12-13 20:44:00 UTC-08:00

...or we could do a comparative analysis per capita using Rubbermaid's sales stats for certain size plastic containers that seem to be the favs of the community....or Speedy Stamp... or PZCut...or...#2 Speedball gouges...or white plastic erasers....or spiral bound index card books. (Must have better weather soon to cease thoughts spawned by cabin fever)

Linda a/k/a Alafair

 Randy Hall <randy@mapsurfer.com> wrote:


(this ain't a flame ... figured I needed a disclaimer :-))

> It certainly does seem like a numbers game. Does it really matter how
> many boxes a State has?

It might be.  Depends who you ask.  Isn't life about turning money into
time and time into fun?

It might be, but on a more interesting note, the quantum physicists have
pretty much destroyed objective reality in favor of observer-centric
specific reality -- in other words, the answer to the question "if a tree
falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound",
is "no".  (That one had been bugging alot of people for a long time).

What this means to letterboxing, I guess (or at least to "these" sorts of
threads on letterboxing talk lists), is that (and quoting Mr. Brett's punk
band) "you create your own reality, and leave mine to me" (good to know the
punk rockers figured it out before the scientists and the philosophers ...
tho at least its good to know the singer is a PhD candidate ...)

In other words, I think most people who are posting on this thread think
its fun, especially given the rather lame letterboxing weather in parts
of the world from whence the posts are coming ... (including my part of
the world, where I stare at 9 hand-carved stamps waiting to get into
the latest caper) ...

... and if its competitive and competitive is fun, so be it, we can create
our own reality in which this stuff goes to our brain's equivalent of
/dev/null ...

As for weighted scales, I think a box should be worth one point for each
month it remains unfound.  Anyone want to keep track of that?  I didn't
think so -- I think that proves the point that its not competitive, or
people would be proposing all sorts of rules along these lines to "level
the playing field", etc. which is what people into competition start to
do.

Finally, and to really stoke the flames -- I've always felt its a form of
competition to deny the competitive nature of the human race, or to show
disdain for apparent competition (whether or not it is in fact, competition),
which, in this case, I don't think it is.  I call it "Tooheyism"; I'll leave
it to the interested to work out the allusion, tho I'll claim the first
post on the list alluding to quantum physics, semiotics, punk rock, and
fiction -- not because I'm competitive, but because its fun :-)

Cheers


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[LbNA] Re: TOP 5 States for letterboxes--OOPS RI IS # 5 WITH 208

From: rscarpen (RiskyNil@hotmail.com) | Date: 2002-12-14 06:37:35 UTC
You know, it's strange, but I can't recall ANYONE saying they think
letterboxing is a numbers game. The fact that some people enjoy
tracking statistic doesn't mean they think letterboxing is all about
the numbers, either.

Consequently, this whole discussion about numbers is pretty silly.
As far as I can tell, everyone on this board agrees that it's the
hiking, getting out doors, and enjoying yourself while hunting down
the box that counts. Some like the additional enjoyment of playing
with numbers, but if you're not one of them, why should it bother you
that others do? I don't get upset because other people like to
mountain bike while I don't. I don't throw a fit because some people
love to surf but I have no interest in it. Doesn't hurt me any. Let
them have at it!

Number are fun. I enjoy them. I like to see what states have the
most letterboxes--more out of curiosity than any real
competitiveness. I like to hear how many letterboxes people nab.
Granted, I don't want a day-by-day account with updates everytime
someone finds a new one--a rough estimate is fine. Which is what MY
counts usually are--rough estimates that I update every now and then.

On a road trip to Yellowstone, I drove 3,217 miles. Why do I know
that? Because I noted the odometer before I left and then when I
arrived. Why does it matter? It doesn't. Just interesting trivia.
And makes me look authoritative when I write down such numbers. =)

But I think everyone likes to track numbers that really don't matter
a whole lot. How many of you folks bought a stock that you plan to
hold for years--but you check its stock price every day to learn if
it went up or down by a nickel because Alan Greenspan coughed? How
many of you folks check the basketball scores? Or football scores?
How many people followed the home run battle between Mark McGuire and
Sammy Sosa? I don't even like baseball, but even I was caught up in
the moment.

How many people wanted to do something "extra-special" to celebrate
the ringing in of the year 2000? There's something magical about
watching those nines all turn into zeros. How many people have
watched their odometer turn from 99999 back to 00000? Heck, I get
excited when it turned from 85000 to 86000. (I'm easily amused, I
admit it!)

Does any of this have any great cosmic significance? Of course not.
But but it's not hurting anyone or anything either. And I think
everyone probably plays this game to some degree.

However, if you don't like to play that game, there's nothing wrong
with that either. But I *DO* think there's something wrong with
trying to stop other people from playing and enjoying the game,
though.

-- Ryan


[LbNA] Re: TOP 5 States for letterboxes--OOPS RI IS # 5 WITH 208

From: rscarpen (RiskyNil@hotmail.com) | Date: 2002-12-14 07:20:32 UTC
> Hey, I'm trying my best to boost WA's count (come to think of it,
> I've placed a few in CA, too)!!!

I'm responsible for about 10% of the boxes in California myself. And
my California counts are gonna start growing rapidly.

> I think Adventure Seeker (dvntrskr/Bethany) has done more than
> anyone else to boost Washington State's count! We are so happy to
> have you here (instead of Oregon ;-)

That's it, I'm placing some classified ads in the Oregonian to find a
nice family in Portland to hide half a hundred boxes within a few
months time--but this time in Oregon! We'll get ourselves our own
Adventure Seeker. ;o)

> If the numbers are important, maybe we should
> develop some type of weighted scale.

Hey.... that could be fun! =)

Ryan boxes: 100 points.
Everyone else's boxes: 1 point.
Connecticut boxees: 0 points.

I'm kidding folks--don't take that seriously! I really don't have
anything against Connecticut except for a life-long difficulty in
spelling the darned word correctly. =)

-- Ryan


Re: [LbNA] Re: TOP 5 States for letterboxes--OOPS RI IS # 5 WITH 208

From: (tehutika@aol.com) | Date: 2002-12-14 08:37:09 UTC-05:00
In a message dated 12/14/2002 2:22:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, RiskyNil@hotmail.com writes:

Ryan boxes: 100 points. 
Everyone else's boxes: 1 point. 
Connecticut boxees: 0 points. 


You forgot something.

Massachusetts boxes: 5 points
Western Massachuestts boxes: 10000000000000000000000000000000000000 points!! <bseg>

Mike S.

Re: [LbNA] Re: TOP 5 States for letterboxes--OOPS RI IS # 5 WITH 208

From: Josef Carlson (jose_ole1@yahoo.com) | Date: 2002-12-14 16:55:28 UTC-08:00

Hi there, Butterfly!

 NLS <jsperrazza@snet.net> wrote:

 

Sometimes I feel "half baked", especially before the holidays.

 

Happy trails!

Josef

Yo:
half baked ?? Hummm . Some of us are smiling at the number given to us as 828.  We know that does not count the Bonus Boxes that we are famous for, and maybe even not the mystery ones. ??
Keep smiling,
Butterfly

rscarpen wrote:
> Numbers per the current list:
> 
> 1.Connecticut 828
> 2.Ohio  291
> 3.Massachusetts  243
> 4.Oregon  216
> 5.Rhode Island 208

Hey, Oregon, you guys have got to start hiding more boxes if we're
ever gonna be numero uno!  =)  Why, I remember the good ol' days when
Ohio had something like two letterboxes, and now they're beating us! 
And come to mention it, Washington and California--which used to have
pathetic letterbox counts--are catching up quick.  If every Oregonian
hid just ONE letterbox, do you realize that Oregon would have
MILLIONS of boxes?!  MILLIONS!  We'd make Connecticut look like the
half-baked pie that they are.  *wink*  =)

-- Ryan


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